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gravel rash jr


Joined: 23 Mar 2009
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blew my casing apart in my t5 so loking for either a t5 or p2 engine

any body got one going spare and how much you after for it ? need to get me scoot back on the road
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carlosfandangles


Joined: 21 Aug 2008
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Have a word with Joe Sanderson - or look on the SBW site as I think he was a selling a 210 and cant be a million miles from you.....
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DREAD


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he just bought a standard 200 engine , i believe so be quick

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gravel rash jr


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i might be getting a set of t5 read valve casings and transfering the internals
but also looking at alternatives incase it all falls through a plan b so to speak .
210 sound like fun though
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gravel rash jr


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should be getting a set of t5 reedvalve casing delivered this weekend ,

and thanks to ditch for buying some of my parts off me i now have most of the money needed to rebuild my engine Very Happy
so all being well i should be back on the road in a couple of weeks , 3 months with out the scoot has done my head in
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Ditch


Joined: 20 Jul 2010
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carlosfandangles wrote:
Have a word with Joe Sanderson - or look on the SBW site as I think he was a selling a 210 and cant be a million miles from you.....


ERmmmm..

Who's Joe Sanderson.???

What's SBW site..??

I would be up for a 210 if the price is right.

Or a shagged 200 elec start lump and build one up myself.. Very Happy Very Happy
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gravel rash jr


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for those who are interested my engine gonna look a bit like this when its done

http://chequeredpast.piczo.com/tuning?cr=7&linkvar=000044#
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Ditch


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gravel rash jr wrote:
for those who are interested my engine gonna look a bit like this when its done

http://chequeredpast.piczo.com/tuning?cr=7&linkvar=000044#


That all looks very funky & expensive..

Had a reed valve on my 210 years ago, know they make it quicker but would love to know why, or what they actually do..??
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markd2


Joined: 28 Mar 2009
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Ditch wrote:
carlosfandangles wrote:
Have a word with Joe Sanderson - or look on the SBW site as I think he was a selling a 210 and cant be a million miles from you.....


ERmmmm..

Who's Joe Sanderson.???

What's SBW site..??

I would be up for a 210 if the price is right.

Or a shagged 200 elec start lump and build one up myself.. Very Happy Very Happy


www.scooterboyworld.com he's sanderson2 on here Wink

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Mark V


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Ditch wrote:
gravel rash jr wrote:
for those who are interested my engine gonna look a bit like this when its done

http://chequeredpast.piczo.com/tuning?cr=7&linkvar=000044#


That all looks very funky & expensive..

Had a reed valve on my 210 years ago, know they make it quicker but would love to know why, or what they actually do..??




Reed valves are commonly used in high-performance versions of the two-stroke engine, where they control the fuel-air mixture admitted to the crankcase. As the piston rises in the cylinder a vacuum is created in the crankcase beneath the piston. This vacuum opens the valve and admits the fuel-air mixture into the crankcase. As the piston descends, it raises the crankcase pressure causing the valve to close to retain the mixture and pressurize it for its eventual transfer through to the combustion chamber.[1]

Composite materials are preferred in racing engines, especially go karts, because the stiffness of the petals can be easily tuned and they are relatively safe in failure. High-speed impact takes its toll on all reed valves, with metal valves suffering in fatigue. The physical inertia of reed valves means that they are not as entirely precise in action as rotary valves, a rotary valve engine may run better than a reed valve engine at a small rpm range but the reed valve engine often runs better over a wider rpm range. More sophisticated designs partly address this by creating multi-stage reeds with smaller, more responsive reeds within larger ones that provide more volume later in the cycle. Nevertheless, current technology favors reed valves almost to the exclusion of rotary valves due to their simplicity and low implementation costs.
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Ditch


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Reed valves are commonly used in high-performance versions of the two-stroke engine, where they control the fuel-air mixture admitted to the crankcase. As the piston rises in the cylinder a vacuum is created in the crankcase beneath the piston. This vacuum opens the valve and admits the fuel-air mixture into the crankcase. As the piston descends, it raises the crankcase pressure causing the valve to close to retain the mixture and pressurize it for its eventual transfer through to the combustion chamber.[1]

Composite materials are preferred in racing engines, especially go karts, because the stiffness of the petals can be easily tuned and they are relatively safe in failure. High-speed impact takes its toll on all reed valves, with metal valves suffering in fatigue. The physical inertia of reed valves means that they are not as entirely precise in action as rotary valves, a rotary valve engine may run better than a reed valve engine at a small rpm range but the reed valve engine often runs better over a wider rpm range. More sophisticated designs partly address this by creating multi-stage reeds with smaller, more responsive reeds within larger ones that provide more volume later in the cycle. Nevertheless, current technology favors reed valves almost to the exclusion of rotary valves due to their simplicity and low implementation costs.


Ahhh basicaly it closes the inlet port to maintain the pressure inside the cylinder/combustion chamber..

I thought it created a vaccum to suck in more air/fuel mixture..

That makes more sense, cheers for that.. Very Happy Very Happy
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chelski


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i got a 210 mallossi engine for 550,but im in londonistan
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carlosfandangles


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gravel rash jr wrote:
for those who are interested my engine gonna look a bit like this when its done

http://chequeredpast.piczo.com/tuning?cr=7&linkvar=000044#


Love to see you get a side panel over the top of that lol

Have never seen one facing that way before - I must get out more UT
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gravel rash jr


Joined: 23 Mar 2009
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carlosfandangles wrote:
gravel rash jr wrote:
for those who are interested my engine gonna look a bit like this when its done

http://chequeredpast.piczo.com/tuning?cr=7&linkvar=000044#


Love to see you get a side panel over the top of that lol

Have never seen one facing that way before - I must get out more UT


apparently facing backwards is better for air flow and you dont get the problems of having the scoot run lean at speed (no forced air induction)

side panel fits easy you need to cut a hole in the panel for the air intake though ,

its also revesable so it can be put on the other way round
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DREAD


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gravel rash jr wrote:
should be getting a set of t5 reedvalve casing delivered this weekend ,

and thanks to ditch for buying some of my parts off me i now have most of the money needed to rebuild my engine Very Happy
so all being well i should be back on the road in a couple of weeks , 3 months with out the scoot has done my head in

what was the price of these, and what did you go for reversed carb i do hope. Wink lovely looking thing.

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